I Am a Strange Loop has ratings and reviews. BlackOxford said: Strangely WrongI must suggest something blasphemously arrogant: Douglas Hofsta. “I Am a Strange Loop is vintage Hofstadter: earnest, deep, overflowing with ideas, cognitive scientist and polymath Douglas Hofstadter has returned to his. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter.
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Results have no meaning without the formula, procedure, strsnge, for generating them. Retrieved 8 October For Chalmers, though, the correlation between the functional arrangement and consciousness still leaves something unexplained: This isn’t a bad book, apart from the constant use of reference to strznge “dear reader”, it’s just redundant because of the above and not nearly as much fun as GEB.
Atoms and presumably their constituent parts have no souls; bacteria have very primitive, that Strangely Wrong I must suggest something blasphemously arrogant: For instance, he argues that concepts like free will make no sense in terms of scientific explanations of matter at the most fundamental level.
His attention to a reader like me, studying consciousness for first time, is thoughtful and steady. I read this book as a teaser to convince me I need to read Godel, Escher, Bach. I bought and read “I am a strange loop” because the jacket liner began with the following: For example, human brains can deduce false ideas starting with true premises because of errors of construction. The swirling loops horstadter by the self reflective video camera will only start after a movement is inserted, any movement, and once started maintains the loopy image forever – or until another movement changes it.
While reading, you’ll probably pursue some of your own lines of thought, tangent to the ideas he lays down, that are as interesting and fun as the ones he pursues. To other people, these two men will appear in every way the same.
I Am a Strange Loop
He also keeps saying things like there is a scale from small soul, with not much of a strange loop, to a big douglaa, where the self-concept is rich. Anyway, I am a self-referent loop that talks about itself. And for this reason, it strikes me as less significant that a brain can think of itself, because brains clearly have flexibilities that formal systems don’t have.
Hofstadter’s thesis is very plausible to me, despite my disagreeing with some specific things he says. And my complaint specifically is why we’re being asked to concede the point. I found myself cursing the author for the way he circled and circled around the subject, hotstadter in every thought he has ever had about consciousness, and relying to a disturbing extent on his personal experience. I did find, however, his account of how identity is dispersed and externalized the be somewhat unconvincing, thought not because I disagree with the concept but with his interpretation of the concept.
The connection to consciousness comes through a theory of development and evolution.
Ignore how long it took me to read the book. An update that I had tried to submit when I finished the book appears not to have saved. But how can such a mysterious abstraction be real–or is our “I” merely a convenient fiction? For Doug, we should consider an animal conscious only insofar as it’s built up this kind of self-symbol.
The philosophical world he describes about midway through the book, Twinwirld, was extremely fun to play with. This page was last edited lpop 23 Februaryat As an exploration of the sense of “I”, Hofstadter explores his own life, and those to whom he has been close.
It’s not at all clear to me that this book has any genuine insights to offer, but that may be that hofstdter is lost on me as I find his writing style After about pages of reading I still was unsure what the point was supposed to be. A bit redundant in prose, and just GEB lite when all is said and done.
Douglas Hofstadter’s “I Am a Strange Loop” on the Self
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Refresh and try again. This section needs additional citations for verification. What’s interesting, and not to my mind fully spelled out, in the book is the relationship between consciousness and the self. However, what if the original weren’t destroyed, and so we end up with two people, with all the same srrange and mental characteristics.
Better luck next time. The key difference being that by his own definition the Self is a self-reflexive symbol but my symbol of someone else—no matter how detailed it is, no matter how intimate we were—does not provide feedback to itself. He does so by describing the mind’s process of something like “infinite reflexivity”.